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I know, I know... Just what we needed was another "union debate thread". But these seem to be pretty relevent stories with all news about Ford and GM's troubles lately.



Fixed-cost labour killing domestic automakers



More than 12,000 UAW members paid not to work



David Booth, National Post



Friday, February 03, 2006



You would think that Ford closing 14 manufacturing plants and laying off between 25,000 and 30,000 employees would be the worst news the domestic automotive business could come up with this week. You'd think.



But, then, cross-town rivalries don't come any more entrenched than the long-standing Motown automaker feud, so General Motors just had to top Ford in the bad news department and report a whopping US$8.6-billion loss for 2005. Were it not for the gargantuan sum of US$23.5-billion GM lost in 1992 as a result of revised healthcare accounting, it would be The General's worst year ever.



To be fair to General Motors, US$2.3-billion of that figure is the after-tax accounting charge the company is assuming for its Delphi liabilities. The auto parts manufacturer, spun off from GM, is in the throes of bankruptcy and, according to the deal struck way back in 1999, GM will have to absorb some of the healthcare and pension costs Delphi manages to jettison as a result of Chapter 11 proceedings.



Though such legacy costs are a huge drag on the company's profitability, one of the truly nefarious costs holding General Motors (and all the other domestic manufacturers) back is the UAW's job banks. Created in the mid-1980s, the Job Opportunity Bank Security system pays eligible workers as much as 95% of their salary plus all health and pension benefits until they are eligible to retire. According to the Detroit Free Press, GM had 5,223 workers in those job banks at the end of last year. And, depending on your source, each and every one of those idled workers can cost The General as much as US$130,000. The nifty little dashboard calculator widget on my spanking new iBook says that adds up to US$679-million. That's what GM pays out every year to employees to do crossword puzzles (I'm not making this up; the Oct. 17, 2005, edition of The Detroit News had a wonderful story on how one job bank's recipient goes into work every day and does exactly that -- crossword puzzles).



But, wait, it gets worse. GM also noted it has to set aside a further US$835-million for workers who will be idled as a result of all the plant closings it has recently instituted. And Delphi, that noose around The General's neck, says it spent US$100-million on the same program in the last quarter of 2005. And, along with GM's 5,000-plus recipients and Delphi's 4,000, Ford has 1,275 employees in the job banks, while DaimlerChrysler has about 2,000. That is more than 12,000 people being paid top dollar not to work.



The plan is expensive on purpose. By making it so difficult to lay off workers, the UAW thought it would discourage the dreaded scourge of outsourcing. It hasn't worked. General Motors' union membership, for instance, is less than a third of what it once was. UAW autoworker membership is about half of what it was at its peak.



What it has done is force domestic manufacturers to keep producing cars even when there has been little demand for them. Deep discounting and rebates are the result. Or, as John Novak, a Morningstar analyst, said recently in the Chicago Tribune, "Essentially, what they are doing is making labour, which in most industries is a variable cost, into a fixed cost. In most businesses, when demand declines, you can downsize your workforce and your costs also shrink."



The union, with much justification, notes that if GM were designing cars consumers wanted, the job banks and layoffs would be a moot point. And there's the always contentious issue of GM's still-healthy dividend payments, which the union wants cut so that man
 
GM CONTINUES BELT TIGHTENING: UAW won't bend despite cuts

Gettelfinger says any concessions unlikely




BY MICHAEL ELLIS

FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER



February 8, 2006

Worry about General Motors Acceptance sale



Almost four months have passed since General Motors Corp. announced its intention to shed a majority stake in financing arm General Motors Acceptance Corp., and that time lag could be a sign of trouble with the sale, ratings agency Moody's Investors Service reported Tuesday.



Moody's said the passage of time "suggests the difficulty of successfully completing the transaction."



GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner announced in October that GM was considering selling GMAC. The divestiture was intended to return GMAC to investment grade status -- crucial for the company's efficient operation.



At a news conference Tuesday in Detroit, Wagoner said work is going on regarding GMAC, but he was noncommittal about where things stand in its possible sale.



Ratings agencies have said that, for GMAC to end up investment grade, the best scenario is a purchase by a highly rated financial institution with a commitment to auto finance.



Dow Jones



General Motors Corp.'s sweeping cuts in executive pay and white-collar pension and retiree health care benefits announced Tuesday won't convince the UAW to agree to deeper cuts for hourly workers, UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said.



The union chief dismissed any suggestion that it set the stage for GM to push the UAW for more concessions. The current contract with the UAW does not expire until fall 2007, but GM executives have said the company needs to quickly cut costs.



"They're not going to come back to us. I don't think you'll see that happen," he told the Free Press at the UAW's annual political conference in Washington Tuesday.



GM's broad initiatives include capping its costs for health benefits for salaried retirees, restructuring the U.S. white-collar pension plan, cutting compensation for board members in half and halving the stock dividend.



"It was a positive move on their part," Gettelfinger said when asked about the cuts in the dividend and executive pay. "It's something we've been asking for since last summer."



The changes mirror many of the suggestions made last month by Jerome York, the adviser to billionaire investor Kirk Kerkorian who was named to GM's board of directors on Monday.



York said in a speech in January that GM needs to adopt an "equality of sacrifice" plan to convince hourly workers that everyone, including board directors, executives and shareholders, will take painful cuts to help the company.



GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said after announcing the white-collar cutbacks that the automaker will continue to talk with the UAW about pruning areas where GM isn't competitive.



"I think it is clear now more than ever that we very much have a shared fate, and we need to work together on areas where we are not competitive and expand areas where we are. And I have every confidence the UAW is going to continue to work with us on that," he said.



GM announced several measures to cut costs. They include:



Beginning in January 2007, GM will cap the amount it contributes to its salaried health care benefits for retirees at 2006 levels. That will effectively transfer the 9% to 10% annual increases in health care costs to retirees. Employees hired after Jan. 1, 1993, are not eligible for retiree health care benefits and are not affected by the changes.



Next year, GM will reassess the health care benefits for retired white-collar workers, and consider program changes such as higher monthly contributions, deductibles, coinsurance and other options.



GM will reevaluate its U.S. salaried pension benefits, and will announce changes next month. Pensions of current salaried workers will be ba
 
And finally, Toyota vs. UAW...



Toyota possibly swayed away from West Michigan



(Detroit, February 8, 2006, 6:53 p.m.) West Michigan may have lost any chance for a new, multi-billion dollar Toyota factory.



An auto analyst in on the decision tells 24 Hour News 8 the reason is because of an unauthorized demonstration in Detroit, led by a militant splinter group from within the United Auto Workers Union. The result of that protest is Toyota looking elsewhere.



Dr. David Cole, the chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, says he was standing in Cobo Center in Detroit with several Toyota executives on the opening day of the North American International Auto Show when a UAW demonstration appeared across the street.



The rally wasn't an authorized union gathering. UAW member Greg Shotwell of Coopersville, a worker at the Delphi plant there, organized it. Shotwell calls his group SOS, or Soldiers For Solidarity.



Cole told 24 Hour News 8 that upon learning Shotwell was from West Michigan the group from Toyota dropped West Michigan from the list.



"The message is that the UAW can't control its own people," Cole said.



The president of Toyota Motor Sales USA did say last month that Michigan was very close to the top of the list for a major investment.



A Toyota spokesman declined Wednesday to confirm or deny Cole's version of events.



24 Hour News 8 talked Wednesday with Shotwell. He said the story as related by Cole was "preposterous, ridiculous and baseless" and called him a "shill for the auto industry."



For the record, Toyota is familiar with work from West Michigan. Delphi is the third largest supplier of parts to Toyota.



As for Dr. Cole, he hopes Toyota doesn't turn its back on West Michigan, but fears the company has made up its mind.
 
Yeah, we can''t have Toyota coming into Detroit, they are a bunch of furriners!



With the "100%" support of Socialists - http://www.socialistappeal.org/international_soldiers_of_solidarity_messages.html





Shotwell calls his group SOS, or Soldiers For Solidarity.



Shouldn't that be SFS?? As usual, the journalist screwed it up, it's Soldiers of Solidarity.



Shotwell sounds liek a genius. About as educated, intelligent and thoughtful as most of the articles/postings I just read on the site.



Unions and Socialism, who would have thought????
 
Dale,



It's straight out of Marx's Communist Manifesto:



Thereupon, the workers begin to form combinations (trade unions) against the bourgeois; they club together in order to keep up the rate of wages; they found permanent associations in order to make provision beforehand for these occasional revolts. Here and there, the contest breaks out into riots.



8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
 
Funny you should mention Marx. Several of the supporters of SOS are former UAW execs and now affiliated (editor, member, etc) with www.marxist.ca.



From each accordiing to ability, to each according to need. Hmmm, how much do you need? I will TELL you how much YOU need, mister!!
 
We are the Borg. Lower your shields and power down your weapons. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your life as it has been is over. From this time forward, you will service us. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
 
Unions are made up of all kinds of people, most have good intentions, but there are going to be bad apples from time to time. I work for the Federal Government and I am union. When I see unions protecting these bad apples, it makes my blood boil....but, they have to...they have to serve EVERY member without prejudice.

Even a bad union is better than no union! I know that without my union things would be horrible, management would crap on us all the time. The union negociates contracts that tell management how they are going to treat us, and it is not a bunch of BS that says we get treated like royalty...it just tells them they will treat us like people.



"All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason to America. No line can be drawn between the two. . . . There is no America without labor, and to fleece the one is to rob the other."

-- Abraham Lincoln
 
No offense Kevin, but I found the first line rather humorous:



I work for the Federal Government and I am union



That's right up there with:



I'm From the Government, and I'm Here to Help.



Sorry, not trying to offend I just find the line humorous.



I do disagree with your union stance. No matter how good the union, having no union is significantly better than the best union. I am also void in seeing how a Union can be a benefit in a Government job.



 
When promotions and raises are based on seniority and not performance, when poor performance is protected, when a guarantee of employment is provided (work pool), then unions are a negative to the general populous. If unions would stop protecting the non performers they would gain more respect from the rest of us. It is this side of unions that the general public dislikes. Unions aren't bad, but they should clean up their act and get rid of the slackers. Unions negotiate via extortion, plain and simple. In the auto industry they had a labor monopoly among the big three and you see where that got us. If the big three were allowed to negotiate with the UAWs collectively, then the benefit packages would not be as costly in the long run. They could not di this due to the monopoly restrictions, but the UAWs could.



There are pros and cons with unions. If unions would feel that the company and them partners in seeking a long term success, then things would be different. Negotiations should provide salary compensation based on the profits of the company. Then both would try to maximize this end.



My understanding is when Saturn first started, the employees where compensated, in part, with the profit of the division. They were extremely happy in the early years when sales of Saturns soared. They were doing better than their counterparts in GM. When Saturns sales slacked, they did nothing but bitch and try to renegotiate better terms independent of Saturn profit.
 
Interesting watching Delta pilots threatening to strike again. they make BIG salaries and the company is scratching for life, so they threaten a strike. That should inspire confidence with investors.



I have two words for them... Eastern Airlines



Make that three ...Idiots.
 
Shek,

I do take offense to your comment, but I do see the humor in it. What you are doing is grouping me in with one of those people who sit behind a desk and worry about when my next coffee break is.

I am a "doer", if you are not familar with that term, in the Air Force we had 2 kinds of people...doers and non-doers...the difference is the doers do their job everyday that is critical to the mission, and the non-doers sit behind a desk and "support" the mission.

Our contract with the government states how long we sit on position working airplanes, it states when they can and can't make us work, it states, basiclly, what is fair and not fair, and a job like mine, those are very important safety standards. As I said...management would crap all over us if we did not have some kind of protection. We don't have a contract to state that we get coffee breaks at 10 and 2.

Our union gives us the power to enforce standards, and the resources to stand up and fight when those standards are violated. If you cannot fathom why these things are important, I can't help you, I would be typing all night.

 
q,

you are proably 90% wrong...it is not the unions that stand in the way of progress...it's the red tape that is caused by laws and a lack of communication in a large orginization. Employees believe that is the way to do things because no one will buck the system.

If anyone has ideas to make things cheaper and better...they shoot them down because "we don't have the money to do that" or "that is not the way it's done"!
 
This is the same type of argument as politics and religion. No matter what you say, the other side will never see your side and become a convert. From a historical point, unions are the result of bad managment. Now both are equally greedy and deserve one another. Well managed companies that treat their employees fairly in all regards generally do not have unions and the employees usually do not want one. I've worked for both kinds of companies and am speaking from personal experience.
 
Bill-E,



You are exactly right. A shop only becomes union with the plant owner wanting them there. Treat your employees right and you have nothing to worry about. Screw your employees and prepare for them to give it right back.



Q, if you have never been Union, you have no clue what you are talking about. Then again, that is nothing unusual.





Tom
 
Who is Caveman? Is that your imaginary friend?





Tom



My experience is that those the bash unions that at one time were union were the ones that caused trouble and the union got tired of protecting them, therefore "unions are bad".
 
I have been active in the IBEW here, including serving as job steward and local vice president. I have found that many, and i do mean MANY, of the employees whose rights we were protecting seemed to have the attitude of "This company owes me." This mentality created alot of really bad attitudes and poor work ethic in my opinion. One of the roles our union plays here is to provide trustworthy, capable employees for the company. I got pretty fed up with the employees alot quicker than I did management.



No, the unions aren't bad. But they seem to give the members a false sense of empowerment that they deserve more than is reasonable.



Ok....I'm done ranting my opinion.



Chet
 
How about ....everyone grab everyone else's hand...and let's just sing "We Are the World"...



:D
 
Q,



Who the hell is Caveman? I try to give you respect but you are nothing but an arrogant little twit.



Address me by Caymen or Tom. I could call you Queer, Q-Bert, or Quief but I choose not to.



Unions are bad for 1% of those lazy people that expect the world to be given to them. The other 99% of union workers care about the company they work for while protecting thier own livleyhood. Bad decisions by the company is not my fault. I kept up my part of the bargan. I came to work and I did my job. Just because you, the company, did not invest into my pension plan does not mean I should give it up. Just because you did not build a good product does not mean it is my fault. Just because you chose to pay yourself 431 times what the "average me" makes without investing any of it back into the company does not mean I should make concessions to keep the company profitable. The mistakes were not made by me.





Tom
 

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