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The 1998, 1997, 1996 and 1999 Ford Explorers (in that order) tops the list. Ford also rounds up the bottom of the list occupying the 7th, 8th and 9th positions with the 1995 Explorer, 1994 Explorer and the 1997 Windstar respectively. Hmm, I'm not sure if this is good or bad news:eek:
 
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I take it as bad news.



Also, it's kind of sad news that people who had Explorers can make due with a tiny foreign car or a Ford Fusion. Really shows me how many people bought an SUV but didn't need it.



I'd love the 30 mpg of an older escort, or maybe even the Fusion, but I know for a fact it would have to be with the trac; I can't give up the cargo space. Sad that so many can.



The only good thing going in is the 97 windstar (IMO). While FAR better than the Grand Caravans of the same era, it still sucked. The japs made a superior minivan, from my experience,which is surprising.



EDIT: Caymen, since they last forever, why do they have to die early deaths at only 10 years? If she hadn't been destroyed by a moron, I'd still be driving my 1992 LeSabre around. I just can't condone killing off a perfectly good ride, especially one that I know will last, as you said, forever.
 
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Caymen, since they last forever, why do they have to die early deaths at only 10 years?
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The same reason people are willing to go into debt to save money. In the end, they spend more money after they saved all that money.



I tried to talk sense into a fellow workmate. He is nervous about his Chevy C1500 only getting 19 MPG going to and from work. He wants to buy a new, small car. He can accept the idea of paying out a $400.00/month car payment, but spends nowhere near that in gas right now.



His truck is paid for.



The breaking point would be gas hitting $12.00/gallon for him to break even.



He still wants better gas mileage because his truck is eating him up alive.:rolleyes:



Some people can not see the forrest through the trees.





Tom
 
That makes no sense, and sadly, I too know too many people like that :(



Though I personally will probably never buy a new car, I really don't see the pros outweighing the massive costs. And unlike the guys here who bought their Gen II STs and immediately went to work modding them, I'd have to wait a long long Long time before the "too new to mess with" feeling went away, which is a big con IMO.
 
Also, it's kind of sad news that people who had Explorers can make due with a tiny foreign car or a Ford Fusion. Really shows me how many people bought an SUV but didn't need it.
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You shouldn't be able to tell squat from this. How many of those people had two or three kids that have left home in the last ten years? How many have kids? How many bought another explorer and something small for their kid to drive?



People need to learn to see the big picture or we're doomed.
 
How many of those people had two or three kids that have left home in the last ten years? How many have kids? How many bought another explorer and something small for their kid to drive?
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Granted, I didn't think of this.



That said, kids leaving home shouldn't have anything to do with selling the SUV. The Explorer is more about hauling stuff than about people. If the amount of people you cart around required a bigger car, a minivan would have worked better. The old explorers aren't exactly loaded with rear footroom; do they really have more space than a sedan? I have doubts. My 92 LeSabre had a roomier cabin than my friend's XLS 2000 explorer.

Sadly, through posts we've established that most explorers never leave the pavement and are just "cool" looking people carriers. Cause, everyone knows that a minivan at the soccer field is verboten.



As for buying another explorer, if people were buying these new AND a small car via the C4C in sufficient numbers, wouldn't explorer sales be far higher than they are?



 
I don't know what people are buying, I just used those as examples of what might be going on.



I have two kids, I have a ST because I need the space. Two kids would fit in any car out there, all their crap, strollers, car seats, diaper bags, etc. etc. won't. When they don't need all that crap, say in ten years, I'll probably end up with a car.
 
My question, which may be irrelevant, is how come Ford is planning to keep the Explorer in production if it is so obviously a "clunker" (as we have seen through the results of this program) and people are no longer wanting SUV's because they are not the trend anymore?!



Wouldn't they be better off learning from this initiative and killing off the Explorer?



That said, I would like to see them keep the ST, obviously 1) for my own biases but also 2) because apparently the ST customer base is Ford's best promotional tool for the vehicle itself. We all rave about our trucks and I haven't heard of a single member considering trading it in as a clunker.
 
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You shouldn't be able to tell squat from this. How many of those people had two or three kids that have left home in the last ten years? How many have kids? How many bought another explorer and something small for their kid to drive?



People need to learn to see the big picture or we're doomed.
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R1ch9999,

Good points people without kids fail to realize,

We went from a 92 F-150 regular cab 5 speed to a 95 ford windstar when our second

son was due. kept it for 10 years and got a 04 expedition.

The van was very practical as far as hauling stuff and people.

We'll probably downsize when both kids move out and we're not hauling my parents around on vacations and ball tournaments.
 
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How sad is it that only 4 of the top ten cars bought were from companies that actually needed it (the big 3) and just over half were made in america.



 
My question, which may be irrelevant, is how come Ford is planning to keep the Explorer in production if it is so obviously a "clunker" (as we have seen through the results of this program) and people are no longer wanting SUV's because they are not the trend anymore?!
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The explorer was cheap and plentiful, which means not well off people could buy them used. Those same not well off people need something like this in order to buy a new car. My guess is a lot of these new cars will be for sale in 6 months when the reality of a car payment sets in
 
On the bright side, the Ford Focus is the number one car in sales, beating those from Honda or Toyota. The reason I think Explorers tops the list is the fact that a lot of them were sold on those model years mentioned.
 
One sad thing about some of the cars in the clunker list. Despite some have been cared for. And some of us would take them as used. The government mandates they be crushed.:(
 
I here ya, Tom. But Im like you. Im also likely to buy used for the right price and good quality.:)



Im sure there are some good ones being traded. Also the government didnt buy them, we did.:(
 
Tom our taxes paid for them. Chip
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Yea, Chip you are right. At the same time, the idea of the program is not to increase the number of used vehicles, but to get vehicles that burn a higher average of fuel off the road. If the program put those vehicles on the used car lot, we would scream too.



I think the program is a good idea. The only mistake is allowing you to buy any make. Ford, GM, or Chrysler and the car sold MUST be built in the USA. End of discussion.





Tom
 

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