Terry Schultz
Active Member
Tom -- I admire your zeal and conviction in what you believe but ----- You were not required to join the union by the company but was required by the union to keep your employment. Who do you work for, the company or the union ??? Were you placed on that job out of a local ??? "Closed shop" mean that the international is garanteed their cut of your dues to use as they please. Locals get there cut of your dues also. Disputes are handled by the locals. How often has the international came to your union's aid using their funds.
The company I worked for was an "open shop" and everyone had the choice to join the union or not and still keep their job, they were hired by the company. I was union for 30+ years and paid my dues. Yes, the non-union guys had the same rights as myself and had to be represented. They "chose" to be freeloaders and not pay their way. Isn't that the American way -- Freedom to Choose. International got their share of dues based on potential local membership. Locals had less money to "truely" represent their member because they had to pay for the non-union members out of their share of dues. Did international use their money or time to come and recruit the non-members -- NO. They got and kept their money to use for their own purposes and to play politics.
I agree that there is plenty of BS in the name of UNION. Usually it is used by lazy union workers to get of of having to work. Why should they -- they get paid the same as the good workers because the union says so. Socialism or unionism ??? You can not decide -- we will decide for you.
TJR -- I like the "drank the Kool-Aid" analogy. Not all the "Kool-Aid" was spiked
Myself -- I appreciate what the union did for me for all thoses years and what I have received in benefits. Could we have gotten more ??? Would I have gotten this without the union ?? I do not know and neither does anyone else. The union wants to tell me that I would have less but there are companies in this area that are non-union and have better benefits. Unions are too slow to change with the times. They are not in control anymore. ERRRR except in "closed shops"
Terry
The company I worked for was an "open shop" and everyone had the choice to join the union or not and still keep their job, they were hired by the company. I was union for 30+ years and paid my dues. Yes, the non-union guys had the same rights as myself and had to be represented. They "chose" to be freeloaders and not pay their way. Isn't that the American way -- Freedom to Choose. International got their share of dues based on potential local membership. Locals had less money to "truely" represent their member because they had to pay for the non-union members out of their share of dues. Did international use their money or time to come and recruit the non-members -- NO. They got and kept their money to use for their own purposes and to play politics.
I agree that there is plenty of BS in the name of UNION. Usually it is used by lazy union workers to get of of having to work. Why should they -- they get paid the same as the good workers because the union says so. Socialism or unionism ??? You can not decide -- we will decide for you.
TJR -- I like the "drank the Kool-Aid" analogy. Not all the "Kool-Aid" was spiked
Myself -- I appreciate what the union did for me for all thoses years and what I have received in benefits. Could we have gotten more ??? Would I have gotten this without the union ?? I do not know and neither does anyone else. The union wants to tell me that I would have less but there are companies in this area that are non-union and have better benefits. Unions are too slow to change with the times. They are not in control anymore. ERRRR except in "closed shops"
Terry
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