Ok,,, just got Rose a NEW "Fire". So far she loves it. She doesn't want a camera, 3-4 g,,, it does her FB stuff, videos, you tube, and email.... As she calls it, a glorified smart phone you can't talk or text on. Sitting on the couch happy as a lark.... I picked it up at staples for $199 but got the 2yr replacement warranty for free ($50) and a case for $40. Can't complain. She has 14 days for return if she doesn't like it. If there is no damage... I am happy, she is happy, the world is happy....... Thanks for the inputs