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They are less dangerous then HID conversion mounted in a non HID headlight enclosure.





Tom
 
I've been running HIDs for well over a year now, I think it's SAFER...to me anyway. It REALLY lights up the road. The difference is truly night and day. In fact, I can run just with the "driving" lights (the little ones at the bottom) and I am able to see significantly better than I ever could with the OEM bulbs. I think HIDs should be standard on ALL new cars, the road would be a much safer place.
 
baron,



You missed my point. HID's are safer if the vehicle is designed for them. They are illegal to be installed in a vehicle that is designed for 9000 series bulbs. They cause too much glare to oncoming traffic. HID's should be standard on all new vehicles, but not retrofitted on cars that are not designed for them.





Tom
 
I got this from www.dsmtuners.com and it's a lot of GOOD info for the ppl wanting HID "kits" for thier Halogen fitted cars.

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I really hope this thread can help you guys. I found it on another site and thought it could save myself and few others the headache of constantly explaining this.

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Your're making the road more dangerous than it already is by adding a <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> kit to your car. so please do <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> the right way by doing a retrofit.

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<span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> kit.

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OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing’s without projectors. Others use <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> projectors.

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The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span>. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted.

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Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> projectors, These Projectors are meant to use <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span>. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff.

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Here are pictures of Halogen housings mated with a <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> kit

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9006 6000k <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> Kit... lots of glare:

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<img src="http://chapmann-motorsports.com/images/Threads/pic6.jpg" border="0" />

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This 'teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic

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<img src="http://chapmann-motorsports.com/images/Threads/wMTQzNzUzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg" border="0" />

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Disaster pics. </span><span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> kit in Halogen Housing: BAD NEWS!!!!!

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<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/pfde7a3b82eb981d9b8d898b3f5ec5217/fa99725e.jpg" border="0" />

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<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid78/p483d6fec1d08dfaea8d2caa0cd7eb586/fb291d25.jpg" border="0" />

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<span style="font-weight: bold">NOW on to THE GOOD stuff!</span>

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This is what <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi:

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<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p779d7f4c7529687f1e3c2cd2d63a2c8e/fa82f13d.jpg" border="0" />

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Talk about a "Razor Sharp" Cutoff.,.... Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup:

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<img src="http://chapmann-motorsports.com/images/Threads/img04703rx.jpg" border="0" />

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Another S2000 Retrofit:

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<img src="http://hid.extremevelocity.net/gallery/04hondaaccord/DSC03494_small.jpg" border="0" />

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Comparison.</span>. Pictured is a Acura TL-S with <span style="color:#FFA34F"><b>HID</b></span> from the fact
 
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I'll have to get a pic of my HID light pattern. It is very defined. Not quite as defined as the pics above, but MUCH more than the BAD pics that you have above. Like I said though, most of the time I drive around with just the driving lights, I rarely even turn the headlights on because I don't need 'em unless I'm in an area prone to deer/people or on a 3+ lane highway. The law here in MO states that every vehicle must have 2 forward-facing lights (but no more than 4) that are primarily white in color...so it's perfectly legal to run the driving lights only. Sometimes being a former cop pays off. ;)

I do see what you're saying though, when I do have my headlights on, I do get brightlighted occasionally by people in smaller cars.
 
I have an HID kit, and I aimed my headlights down a bit, but yes, there is still a bit of glare. I'm planning on getting a set of Hella 90mm projectors or something similar to retrofit into a second set of headlight units. Here's how mine look compared to a Sylvania Silverstar, and a picture of them in the dark.



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So an HID conversion, but with H4 bulbs. If they are anything like the halogen bulbs, they have built in filters and have a very defined beam pattern:

<img src="http://www.zjstech.net/~library/368/new_lights/low_beams.jpg">
 
My SVT Focus came with HID's from the factory. They are like the S2000 with the proper cutoff. I've seen some cars pulled over because of "illegal light HID's"[Broken External Image]:
 
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