All this from a simple question - jabs everywhere even - i live in Nebraska - the nearest 1/4 strip is more than three hours away (KCI) - when I finally was tuned to its MAX, it was cold out - you are fortunate to have a track that close - driving 3 hours on a 40 degree day to get a non-accurate result to satisfy the forum is not worth the time - in the spring for sure - then you can have fun with my numbers -
It's a car deal for goodness sake - helping a buddy (even an online buddy) is all I suggested in the first place - some folks don't have the working knowlege of this business and my question simply was to ask - now three reasons that someone wants to hide the data - 1) they are the dealer associate and hiding the info is their job = huge gross profit opportunity or 2) the dollar given for true market value or ACV is too low and it would be looked at by the forum that you got taken by the dealer - which would open the door for some ribbing so i understand that - most dealers would take an item like that and mark it up $3k - $5k and hope for the best and discount accordingly when needed - if this is where you feel that I crossed the "inappropriate line" then i am sorry - looking out for a potential buyer here was the only thought in mind, not to ruffle feathers or to get the conversation turned to who is faster based on time slips. No one asked your rate, term, credit score or anything - simple math that can easily get distorted by anyone not in the business - price of new car - less trade = difference + payoff equals balance - the trade can be skewed by thousands that includes hidden rebates, over allowance, and dealer discount - The dealer assigned a wholesale value to your car (probably didnt tell you what it was and left you with an over allowance to make you feel good) no harm no foul - all this emotion over a question - and why - because maybe i was curious what a modifed beast like yours actually did in a dealer's hand - good property, weak property, or average property - I get it, no one wants to see what they were given $20K for and see it sold or advertised for $25K - its unsettling - i know 3) you don't know -
Some dealers use this opportunity to tell someone trading in a ST that "well mr customer, this will be hard to get rid of since Ford stopped makeing the ST so the value is near worthless" Another dealer might say that they have to give a low figure to protect them incase the buyer needs it returned to stock, so they had to "hold on the value" because they didnt want to get burned by buying all stock parts to get rid of it - just questions
This is just as silly as asking your neighbor what the got out of his house "net" and admitting that he paid 7% - 9% in commision fee's that came out of hard worked equity...and the neighbor can't answer - people looking out for people is something that is missing in todays climate -
