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A good video about a Canadian couple's experience w/single payer healthcare
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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Rogers" data-source="post: 881037" data-attributes="member: 60724"><p>Jenn D,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I submit that it is capitalism, our legal system, and medical services provided without Torte reform (aka "limited liability") that lead to your experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What I mean by that is that once in the door of the hospital one would expect that the Hippocratic Oath of "do no harm" would drive the care you are given. Frankly, I don't think it does. I think today most hospitals are guided by a new oath: "Assume no liability"; and under that oath the hospital and doctors have to do a battery of tests to rule out any and all possible injuries or health problems. Still, hospitals and doctors miss things, and more often than we would like "shit just happens", but because you are or were in the hospital when things go bad you get to sue and the hospital and/or doctors have to pay. That's where medical malpractice insurance comes in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, hospitals and doctors have to give more care and run more tests than they otherwise would, and the procedures and care are inflated to cover malpractice insurance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, without such a "system", you would have been in and out quickly, and probably with little charge. However, the risk to the hospital and to you would be increased. It would be more likely that you might have had an internal injury that goes undiagnosed. Sure, that's the long shot, but our system is set up to prevent the "long shot" from happening. Because of that everyone pays more, whether it be for a band-aid or for an apendectomy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the govt ran healthcare we can expect that there would be Torte reform and that would limit the amount that people could sue hospitals and doctors (and the govt). When and if that happens capitalism dictates that the quality of care, and the completeness of care WILL go down because the financial incentive to supply better, more thorough care has been reduced.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>TJR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Rogers, post: 881037, member: 60724"] Jenn D, I submit that it is capitalism, our legal system, and medical services provided without Torte reform (aka "limited liability") that lead to your experience. What I mean by that is that once in the door of the hospital one would expect that the Hippocratic Oath of "do no harm" would drive the care you are given. Frankly, I don't think it does. I think today most hospitals are guided by a new oath: "Assume no liability"; and under that oath the hospital and doctors have to do a battery of tests to rule out any and all possible injuries or health problems. Still, hospitals and doctors miss things, and more often than we would like "shit just happens", but because you are or were in the hospital when things go bad you get to sue and the hospital and/or doctors have to pay. That's where medical malpractice insurance comes in. So, hospitals and doctors have to give more care and run more tests than they otherwise would, and the procedures and care are inflated to cover malpractice insurance. Now, without such a "system", you would have been in and out quickly, and probably with little charge. However, the risk to the hospital and to you would be increased. It would be more likely that you might have had an internal injury that goes undiagnosed. Sure, that's the long shot, but our system is set up to prevent the "long shot" from happening. Because of that everyone pays more, whether it be for a band-aid or for an apendectomy. If the govt ran healthcare we can expect that there would be Torte reform and that would limit the amount that people could sue hospitals and doctors (and the govt). When and if that happens capitalism dictates that the quality of care, and the completeness of care WILL go down because the financial incentive to supply better, more thorough care has been reduced. TJR [/QUOTE]
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