10% Ethanol?

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Nick Miller

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I live in a small city and for years I have bought fuel from the same gas station. But now we have a Mega Walls-mart and their fuel is 12 cents per gallon cheaper. Walls-mart have signs on their pumps that read "This fuel may contain up to 10% Ethanol" Why? Good or Bad?
 
It adds oxygen to the combustion products to reduce emissions. MTBE used to be used for this purpose, but it was found that MTBE can contaminate groundwater, so many states have banned it and are now using ethanol. If you live in a state (or metro area) that requires oxygenated gasoline, chances are it will some ethanol in it.
 
We just did that transition here a year or so ago. All Stations around here now have 10% Ethanol in thier fuels. Makes your mileage a bit worse, and around here made gas more expensive (just an excuse I reckon)
 
Ethanol is mandatory here for me, down in the socialist state of Maryland, and all it does is seriously impair gas mileage, which the gas stations obviously love.



It might keep emissions down, key word being might, but does that really matter, when we have catalytic converters? Perhaps the environmentalists should focus more on stopping unnecessary clear cutting of woods for houses instead of screwing up our business at the gas pumps, but they're called environmental wackos for a reason :(



Not to mention that using corn, which is an already overused product, for gasoline, drives up the price of corn, which in turn drives up the price of food. What doesn't use "high fructose corn syurp" ?



Some people just don't understand.





But sadly, here in the socialist state of maryland, where the government has to do everything for the people (the nanny state), people just want to join a "good" cause and buy hybrid cars without thinking, and clamor for ethanol even though they don't realize what that entails. If the situation is like this in the state which contains the nation's capital, it must be this bad everywhere :(
 
I've only put Wal-Mart gas in my Trac once and the mileage was even worse than normal. I also heard some knocking. But where I live, I watch the prices and there is always at least one major station such as Exxon or Texaco that will match if not beat Wal Mart. So I really don't have any reason to go there.
 
If the situation is like this in the state which contains the nation's capital



The Nation's Capital is in the District of Columbia, not Maryland. The Founding Fathers created D.C. so that no state would have the Capitol within it and therefore have an advantage over the other States. As a result, D.C. is now one of the poorest, crime-ridden areas of the country.
 
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I know, and thank God for, the fact that DC is NOT part of Maryland.



However, it IS surrounded by Maryland on ALL sides, meaning that it is contained within Maryland.



It is a 14 square mile ghetto trapped in our state....if Virginia had ceded the land, Marylanders wouldn't miss this.
 
However, it IS surrounded by Maryland on ALL sides, meaning that it is contained within Maryland.



When did this change?? It must be real recent. I grew up in northern Virginia and my dad still lives in Alexandria. Last week I was up there and went into DC for dinner one night, and never had to enter Maryland to get there.
 
I'm not completely convinced that 10% ethanol in the gasoline hurts mpg's, I ran 87 oct(no ethanol) and I've ran 89(10% ethanol) and I didn't notice any difference in mileage between the two.
 
We have a chain here that sells mid-grade with ethanol for the same price as its regular. I have tried both, and my mileage is noticably lower if I run their mid-grade instead of their regular. I figure it is just a marketing ploy to get mid-grade for the same price as regular, since the midgrade with ethanol is probably cheaper for them to make, with the subsidies, etc.



If it had a noticable power difference at the same gas mileage, or if it just gave better gas mileage, I would buy it, but all I notice is less gas mileage. Both of them are Top-Tier rated.
 

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