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<blockquote data-quote="Dale Carlson" data-source="post: 601864" data-attributes="member: 56095"><p>Rich, </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not quite sure what I've said that makes you insist (because you've said it twice now) that I've convicted these people. I do believe that the conclusion of most of their cases is, well, a foregone conclusion. Most of these folks are going to pay the fine because to take it to court would just be too much of a nuisance for them. Hey, newsflash - if you bust people in a hotel bar, who are you going to get in your net? People from out of town. How many of those are going to come back to fight this in court?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>However, I hope that someone does take a case to court to test the law as it's written. My feeling is that they'll win - and at some point the law will have to made tighter and more specific, thereby reducing it's effectiveness in other situations. I gotta wonder if the regular cop on the beat isn't just about hating what the TABC did. It's gonna make their job that much tougher when the law is re-written, or at the very least, the judges start setting precedents about what is and what isn't public intoxication.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're also insisting that these people only have to publicy intoxicated. If I understand this correctly, the state will have to prove that these people (well, those who choose to take it to court) may have been a danger to themselves or others - NOT JUST DRUNK. So far, I'm not seeing the second element. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I actually don't think there's anything wrong with laws on public intoxication. I do think that the TABC's application of it is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dale Carlson, post: 601864, member: 56095"] Rich, I'm not quite sure what I've said that makes you insist (because you've said it twice now) that I've convicted these people. I do believe that the conclusion of most of their cases is, well, a foregone conclusion. Most of these folks are going to pay the fine because to take it to court would just be too much of a nuisance for them. Hey, newsflash - if you bust people in a hotel bar, who are you going to get in your net? People from out of town. How many of those are going to come back to fight this in court? However, I hope that someone does take a case to court to test the law as it's written. My feeling is that they'll win - and at some point the law will have to made tighter and more specific, thereby reducing it's effectiveness in other situations. I gotta wonder if the regular cop on the beat isn't just about hating what the TABC did. It's gonna make their job that much tougher when the law is re-written, or at the very least, the judges start setting precedents about what is and what isn't public intoxication. You're also insisting that these people only have to publicy intoxicated. If I understand this correctly, the state will have to prove that these people (well, those who choose to take it to court) may have been a danger to themselves or others - NOT JUST DRUNK. So far, I'm not seeing the second element. I actually don't think there's anything wrong with laws on public intoxication. I do think that the TABC's application of it is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. [/QUOTE]
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