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OT: Standing Up For What's Right - Against Circuit City and the local Police
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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Hyde" data-source="post: 731267" data-attributes="member: 64553"><p>TJR,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your right, an officer must have a "lawful" reason to ask for proof of indentification. If your were walking down the street and an officer pulls up and starts talking with you and is not asking you about a specific offense and asks for your name and you don't want to give it, you don't have to and can't be compelled to give your name. Period. If the officer pulls up and starts asking you questions about a specific offense, and has information or reason to believe your involved or have information about an offense, it's a different story.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The other point you mentioned about being detained, you can be tempoarily detained wtihout having to be "charged" with something. Here's an example if I'm understanding you correctly: A robbery occurs, the officer at the scene gets a description of the suspect and broadcasts it over the radio to the other units. Another unit sees Joe Shmoe walking down the street on the next block and he matches the physical description with similar clothing. The officer has the authority to stop and detain Joe and obtain his ID. If, after talking with Joe, it turns out he's not the suspect, he's turned lose and he goes on his way. It's a legal stop and detention. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it all boils down to what were all saying. An officer has to have lawful reason to compell someone to provide identification. Of course we could start another debate on what constitutes "lawful reason." <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Just kidding!!!!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mike H</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Hyde, post: 731267, member: 64553"] TJR, Your right, an officer must have a "lawful" reason to ask for proof of indentification. If your were walking down the street and an officer pulls up and starts talking with you and is not asking you about a specific offense and asks for your name and you don't want to give it, you don't have to and can't be compelled to give your name. Period. If the officer pulls up and starts asking you questions about a specific offense, and has information or reason to believe your involved or have information about an offense, it's a different story. The other point you mentioned about being detained, you can be tempoarily detained wtihout having to be "charged" with something. Here's an example if I'm understanding you correctly: A robbery occurs, the officer at the scene gets a description of the suspect and broadcasts it over the radio to the other units. Another unit sees Joe Shmoe walking down the street on the next block and he matches the physical description with similar clothing. The officer has the authority to stop and detain Joe and obtain his ID. If, after talking with Joe, it turns out he's not the suspect, he's turned lose and he goes on his way. It's a legal stop and detention. But it all boils down to what were all saying. An officer has to have [b][/b][i][/i]lawful [b][/b][i][/i] reason to compell someone to provide identification. Of course we could start another debate on what constitutes "lawful reason." :) Just kidding!!!! Mike H [/QUOTE]
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